When “helping” isn’t enough, kind leaders step into advocacy. In this candid conversation, Mark Phillips, CEO of Catholic Charities West Virginia, joins me to unpack how nonprofits can move from services to systems change—with authenticity, listening, and courage.
We talk rural realities, SNAP and food security, donor dynamics, subsidiarity, and why “compassionate” does not mean “quiet.” If you lead, serve, fund, or support a mission-driven org, this one’s for you.
